This thread is mainly for discussion on polotics. Mostly American, but any one else can join in too. Also, any hint of flaming, and this thread will be closed immediately. Here are the rules for posting:

1) No flaming on other people's opinion. It is there opinion, no one elses.

2) Be polite to all members of the thread.

3) When stating your opinion, do not use cruel words to describe the member of the government. For example:

Instead of: "Bush is the stupidest person ever." use: "I believe that Bush is not a very efficient president."

Any form of breaking the rules or regulations, and you will be not allowed to post in this thread any longer. And if you post after you have been banned, I will report you to PS3_Master immediately, and allow him to deside the punishment.

i'll go first, i guess.

i believe that goarge bush should not be president. this is because of the war that he started in Iraq, and the slow reaction to Katrina. discuss.

i'll go first, i guess.

i believe that goarge bush should not be president. this is because of the war that he started in Iraq, and the slow reaction to Katrina. discuss.
Agreed. Although I am Canadian and this really doesnt concern me I really can see the many errors in his ways. The way he reacted to Katrina was awful, he should have had every avalible person in the country down there helping out right away, including himself.

Agreed. Although I am Canadian and this really doesnt concern me I really can see the many errors in his ways. The way he reacted to Katrina was awful, he should have had every avalible person in the country down there helping out right away, including himself.

or he could of at least sent some supplies before the hurricane hit. hurrican's are not like tornadoes, they can be prodicted relitively early on. bush did next to nothing untill katrina actually hit.

also, thank you for following all the rules of the thread.

of course you are correct curlfro, George 'Dubya' should not even be allowed to be the president of the local high school's glee club, much less that of the US. in truth, presidents are not elected at all, they are selected by bloodline. When one studies the geneological records of the past presidents of the US, one can see that an overwhelming majority of those people are actually descendants of the same bloodline. This is a very complex issue to discuss so I recommend finding info based on the research of people like David Icke and Jordan Maxwell.

of course you are correct curlfro, George 'Dubya' should not even be allowed to be the president of the local high school's glee club, much less that of the US. in truth, presidents are not elected at all, they are selected by bloodline. When one studies the geneological records of the past presidents of the US, one can see that an overwhelming majority of those people are actually descendants of the same bloodline. This is a very complex issue to discuss so I recommend finding info based on the research of people like David Icke and Jordan Maxwell.

lol tempral " Dubya" thats how my friend likes to pronounce his name lol but i just say w. Are u serious that george bush is a presidnet of a glee club probably u were jsut kidding lol. Seems pretty interesting that all the presidnets are realated

i've just started my own forum about this kinda stuff. Anyone who wants to help seriously analyse anything to do with 911, the government, etc. come on over to my forum (http://truthseekers.myfastforum.org/index.php).

look pretty kool temporal good job!

Actually I disagree with all of the George W. Bush bashers. As far as I'm concerned there are too many natural disasters every year that don't really get government attention, it's not that big of a deal to me. A May 5th tornado that ripped through Oklahoma City a few years ago is an example. Everyone, the media especially, care to much over something like what happened with Hurricane Katrina. There's more important things going on in this world than a natural disaster regardless of the size of it. Hurricane Katrina DIDN'T cause all the flooding and the massive damage to New Orleans. A crack in the levy did, blame the person who created that, not the President.. Not to sound like an ass but that's the truth.

And the Iraqi war. Not a bad decision as far as I'm concerned. There are people who are over there that actually want to be over there. We here, in America and everywhere else, only hear the bad that is coming from this war, not the good. If you don't like the war, that's your opinion, but do not speak out against the soldiers that are over there. They volunteered to help out over there, at least respect their decision.

My cousin is over there in that war, and he volunteered for it the day after the war started. I'm tired of people blasting the troops and/or George Bush. If George Bush was such a bad leader, why did he get a second term? Because there are far more people out there that respect the man than people out there that don't. So don't go off saying, "well, whoever voted for George Bush is an idiot" and "America is just full of idiots for giving him a second term" because more people felt he was the one we needed in office. GET OVER IT. It's done and it will be done until 2008. 'Nuff Said..

And on the war issue. I WILL STATE AGAIN. George Bush is fed information from areas within the White House, he makes his decisions based on the facts that are presented to him. In other words, EVERY PRESIDENT WE'VE EVER HAD IS NOTHING BUT A PUPPET.. If you want to hate people, hate the people that feed him his information and not him.

In the my honest opinion, things are happening in this world that can't be stopped, and I think people want somebody to push the blame on so they pick the President. If Clinton was the President, you'd say the same thing. If Kerry was the President, you'd say the same thing. Quit buying everything the media feeds you and try to find the truth. I'm so tired of everyone *****ing over stuff that's going on. DEAL WITH IT. It's happening and it will until everything gets straightened out in this world.

Oh and P.S. If you don't like what's goin on in America, then get the hell out..

i dont live in america so i cant get the hell out and lol b3rat3 u always disagree with everything mabe u will disagree that u disagree lol. then u will be diagreeing

Actually LoL, I do disagree about disagreeing. I don't disagree with everything, I just think there is some good points people overlook and then I feel the need to fill them in on the REAL truth.

And as far as not living in America. I think anyone who doesn't live in America can keep their opinions to themselves, as far as the American Government is concerned. The American Government doesn't affect anybody who doesn't live in America so it shouldn't be anyone else's concern..

And just incase you still believe that I disagree with everything. See the thread on UMD's, I agreed with AA7

Actually I disagree with all of the George W. Bush bashers. As far as I'm concerned there are too many natural disasters every year that don't really get government attention, it's not that big of a deal to me. A May 5th tornado that ripped through Oklahoma City a few years ago is an example. Everyone, the media especially, care to much over something like what happened with Hurricane Katrina. There's more important things going on in this world than a natural disaster regardless of the size of it. Hurricane Katrina DIDN'T cause all the flooding and the massive damage to New Orleans. A crack in the levy did, blame the person who created that, not the President.. Not to sound like an ass but that's the truth.

And the Iraqi war. Not a bad decision as far as I'm concerned. There are people who are over there that actually want to be over there. We here, in America and everywhere else, only hear the bad that is coming from this war, not the good. If you don't like the war, that's your opinion, but do not speak out against the soldiers that are over there. They volunteered to help out over there, at least respect their decision.

My cousin is over there in that war, and he volunteered for it the day after the war started. I'm tired of people blasting the troops and/or George Bush. If George Bush was such a bad leader, why did he get a second term? Because there are far more people out there that respect the man than people out there that don't. So don't go off saying, "well, whoever voted for George Bush is an idiot" and "America is just full of idiots for giving him a second term" because more people felt he was the one we needed in office. GET OVER IT. It's done and it will be done until 2008. 'Nuff Said..

And on the war issue. I WILL STATE AGAIN. George Bush is fed information from areas within the White House, he makes his decisions based on the facts that are presented to him. In other words, EVERY PRESIDENT WE'VE EVER HAD IS NOTHING BUT A PUPPET.. If you want to hate people, hate the people that feed him his information and not him.

In the my honest opinion, things are happening in this world that can't be stopped, and I think people want somebody to push the blame on so they pick the President. If Clinton was the President, you'd say the same thing. If Kerry was the President, you'd say the same thing. Quit buying everything the media feeds you and try to find the truth. I'm so tired of everyone *****ing over stuff that's going on. DEAL WITH IT. It's happening and it will until everything gets straightened out in this world.

Oh and P.S. If you don't like what's goin on in America, then get the hell out..

well, there is a slight difference between a hurricane and tornado. a hurrican can be predicted days before it hits. a tornado appears and dissipears quickly and without warning. bush did nothing to get people out of new orlands, and he took forever to do something after it hit.

oh, and P.S. that was a little bit flaming there. i;m not gunna get you in trouble this time, but try and be a little more kind. "If you don't like . . . America, then get the hell out. I'm so tired of everyone *****ing over stuff that's going on. Quit buying everything the media feeds you."

Actually I disagree with all of the George W. Bush bashers. As far as I'm concerned there are too many natural disasters every year that don't really get government attention, it's not that big of a deal to me. A May 5th tornado that ripped through Oklahoma City a few years ago is an example. Everyone, the media especially, care to much over something like what happened with Hurricane Katrina. There's more important things going on in this world than a natural disaster regardless of the size of it. Hurricane Katrina DIDN'T cause all the flooding and the massive damage to New Orleans. A crack in the levy did, blame the person who created that, not the President.. Not to sound like an ass but that's the truth.

And the Iraqi war. Not a bad decision as far as I'm concerned. There are people who are over there that actually want to be over there. We here, in America and everywhere else, only hear the bad that is coming from this war, not the good. If you don't like the war, that's your opinion, but do not speak out against the soldiers that are over there. They volunteered to help out over there, at least respect their decision.

My cousin is over there in that war, and he volunteered for it the day after the war started. I'm tired of people blasting the troops and/or George Bush. If George Bush was such a bad leader, why did he get a second term? Because there are far more people out there that respect the man than people out there that don't. So don't go off saying, "well, whoever voted for George Bush is an idiot" and "America is just full of idiots for giving him a second term" because more people felt he was the one we needed in office. GET OVER IT. It's done and it will be done until 2008. 'Nuff Said..

And on the war issue. I WILL STATE AGAIN. George Bush is fed information from areas within the White House, he makes his decisions based on the facts that are presented to him. In other words, EVERY PRESIDENT WE'VE EVER HAD IS NOTHING BUT A PUPPET.. If you want to hate people, hate the people that feed him his information and not him.

In the my honest opinion, things are happening in this world that can't be stopped, and I think people want somebody to push the blame on so they pick the President. If Clinton was the President, you'd say the same thing. If Kerry was the President, you'd say the same thing. Quit buying everything the media feeds you and try to find the truth. I'm so tired of everyone *****ing over stuff that's going on. DEAL WITH IT. It's happening and it will until everything gets straightened out in this world.

Oh and P.S. If you don't like what's goin on in America, then get the hell out..

LOL!!!!! you speak of searching for the truth when you havn''t the vaguest idea of what the truth is. Why was Bush re-elected? He was selected by bloodline in the first place and then reselected in the second election. People like you need so badly to wake up and open your eyes to what is going on in the world. Just because your idiot cousin leaped before he looked and volunteered to go fight in this idiotic war we are in, that does indeed affect the entire world, doesn't mean we are fighting for a just cause, in fact, sharply the opposite. You, to me, sound like you come from a home full of either complete morons or freemasons, take your pick. If you can hold up your end in a debate about whats going on in the world and America, then come on over to my forum @ http://truthseekers.myfastforum.org untill then I'll consider you a waste of skin.

Actually LoL, I do disagree about disagreeing. I don't disagree with everything, I just think there is some good points people overlook and then I feel the need to fill them in on the REAL truth.

And as far as not living in America. I think anyone who doesn't live in America can keep their opinions to themselves, as far as the American Government is concerned. The American Government doesn't affect anybody who doesn't live in America so it shouldn't be anyone else's concern..

And just incase you still believe that I disagree with everything. See the thread on UMD's, I agreed with AA7

ok correction u disagree to waht i say ok? okayy! :D who agress with me?

psst obviously not b3rat3.....

First of all Temporal, or whatever the hell your name is.. You can just shut the **** up. You're like most of the idiotic people in this world who have to talk **** about the government and claim that you know everything. Dude, what the **** are you doing in this world to make a difference? Go to hell you piece of sh*t!.

And as far as him being selected by bloodline. LOOK AT THE POPULAR VOTE YOU F*CKING MORON! Who cares about your bullsh!t conspiracy-theorist mind-set! Get over the fact that some things are as they are and not everything is how YOU interpret it to be.. A$$Hole.

And as far as you calling my cousin an idiot and then calling my family a bunch of morons. Where in the hell do you have any right to talk about my family. A group of people whom you have never and will never meet. You're one of those people who argue just for the sake of being different. Go to hell you egotistical moron.

Plus, Justinian, dude, I'm sorry if you think I disagree with everything you say, I never meant for my opinions to affect you in that way. It doesn't matter anymore anyhow. I'm leaving these forums. I'm sure there are plenty of forums out there who don't bash you and/or your families based on your beliefs alone.

Nobody talks about my family, that's, without a doubt, immaturity at its best. I have my own opinions, as do you, and you took your beliefs too far. Get control of yourself, man...

And as far as CurlFro is concerned. I had a feeling you were teaming against me from the beginning. You call my "if you don't like America then get the hell out" statement a blast against people? That's a general statement that I DIDN'T EVEN MAKE UP!! It's a repeat. Get off it man..

To Everyone: For the most part, I liked these forums. We had debates over video games, I mean sure that's to be expected, but there are some people who just aggrivated me because they are so close-minded. Thanks for having me for the short time that I've been here, PS3_Master, but I can't continue to be apart of a community that would stoop to the extreme low of bashing my family just because I have seperate beliefs. Again, IMMATURITY.

I guess what they say is true, people just always want something to B*tch about.

First of all Temporal, or whatever the hell your name is.. You can just shut the **** up. You're like most of the idiotic people in this world who have to talk **** about the government and claim that you know everything. Dude, what the **** are you doing in this world to make a difference? Go to hell you piece of sh*t!.

And as far as him being selected by bloodline. LOOK AT THE POPULAR VOTE YOU F*CKING MORON! Who cares about your bullsh!t conspiracy-theorist mind-set! Get over the fact that some things are as they are and not everything is how YOU interpret it to be.. *******.

And as far as you calling my cousin an idiot and then calling my family a bunch of morons. Where in the hell do you have any right to talk about my family. A group of people whom you have never and will never meet. You're one of those people who argue just for the sake of being different. Go to hell you egotistical moron.

Plus, Justinian, dude, I'm sorry if you think I disagree with everything you say, I never meant for my opinions to affect you in that way. It doesn't matter anymore anyhow. I'm leaving these forums. I'm sure there are plenty of forums out there who don't bash you and/or your families based on your beliefs alone.

Nobody talks about my family, that's, without a doubt, immaturity at its best. I have my own opinions, as do you, and you took your beliefs too far. Get control of yourself, man...

And as far as CurlFro is concerned. I had a feeling you were teaming against me from the beginning. You call my "if you don't like America then get the hell out" statement a blast against people? That's a general statement that I DIDN'T EVEN MAKE UP!! It's a repeat. Get off it man..

To Everyone: For the most part, I liked these forums. We had debates over video games, I mean sure that's to be expected, but there are some people who just aggrivated me because they are so close-minded. Thanks for having me for the short time that I've been here, PS3_Master, but I can't continue to be apart of a community that would stoop to the extreme low of bashing my family just because I have seperate beliefs. Again, IMMATURITY.

I guess what they say is true, people just always want something to B*tch about.

sorry man, i warned you. oh, and by the way, no one was teaming up against you. i feal that to avoid further flaming, i'm going to have this thread closed. sorry to everyone who just came here to talk kindly to other people about there opinions.

This reply has been edited. I have appologized to CurlFro for offending him and I wish to appologize to anyone else who I offended.. I realize that there is a difference of opinion going on and I got really heated over a lot of it, mainly my family being talked down to. But I have appologized and am letting it drop immediately.

BullSh!t, that's the crap I'm talking about. You didn't even say anything to Temporal. You don't like me, and you can go ahead and admit it because every since I spoke out against you because of being close-minded, you've had something against me. What Temporal said is far worse than what I said. Go to hell yourself..

no, i reported you because you attacked directly almost everyone.

but i do agree, after re-reading tempural_zuzu's post that he should be banned from posting, but what you said was far worse.

Curlfro DUDE, he blasted my family, that's far worse than anything. You don't mess with a persons family and call them morons when you have no idea. He's blasting my family over what I SAY. He has no right to do that. I'm sorry if you feel like I'm a lot worse than he is. And I'll leave if you really feel this way but as far as I'm concerned he committed the ultimate sin towards me.

I apologize for what I said about your family man, I was tired and what you said just hit me as pompous and brazen. Listen, if you won't have hard feelings then neither will I. I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said what I did. Listen tho, I think you all should listen to this radio broadcast. very chilling. as far as me claiming to know everything... I never remember making that statement, although I am right about the bloodlines thing lol! what popular vote?? lol the votes that jeb bush manufactured? oops... anyway, I have been doing extensive research into these areas for almost a year and lemme tall ya, nothing is what it seems. besides I'd hardly say it was the ultimate sin as I could have chosen much more provocative words, but remember, they are just words from what you consider a know-nothing f'in POS. so dont concern yourself with it because I was wrong, I sincerely and deeply apologize to you and yours.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/powerfan/trunews_04_05_06_wed.mp3

Cant we all just get along??? Lets all try and be mature here.....

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